[Dailydave] Paid-for Vendor talk .... seems legit?

David Maynor dmaynor at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 16:20:07 EDT 2012

I don't mind sponsorship as much as I do the lack of knowledge transfer. If you have a flow chart for a problem and one of the boxes is a ? thats not as good as a talk that shows lots of IDA screens. I feel like the difference between RSA and Defcon is that RSA talks are marketing pitches for products where Defcon has technical discussions of problems. So leaving an RSA talk is a lot like those mysterious drug commercials that just list random symptoms and sends the masses in a hypochondria, where Defcon leaves me thinking how can I integrate this into my testing or write exploits to take advantage of it. 

As long as I leave a conference with that Defcon feeling I am happy regardless of how it's funded. 

On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Christien Rioux <crioux at noctem.org> wrote:

> That's an good goal for an event if you can afford it.
> SOURCE Conference accepts sponsorship, but no sponsorship level
> includes 'paid keynotes' or track talks.
> Any 'vendor' sessions are clearly marked as such, and our advisory
> board would never accept vendor pitches masquerading as track talks.
> When you're a smaller event, it's not that hard to keep the vendors
> where they should be.
> --chris
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:27 PM, The Dark Tangent <dtangent at defcon.org> wrote:
>> What he said.
>> DEF CON has not and will not even accept sponsorship at any level. I'm not
>> sure what conferences still do that, but I don't want to risk any vendor taint
>> at all.
>> Jeff
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>> Dear Dave,
>> not every conference does that.
>> We choose our keynotes carefully and make sure that they don't have a vendor
>> or product pitch. And we pay for travel and accommodation for all speakers,
>> including key note...
>> regards, DeepSec
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