[Dailydave] APT

[Wim Remes]

Lieutenant-General Van Riper agrees :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

"[The Red Force, led by Van Riper] adopted an
asymmetric<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare> strategy,
in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic
surveillance <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance> network. Van Riper
used motorcycle <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle>messengers to
transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to
launch airplanes without radio communications."

Cheers,
Wim

PS : hat tip to @indi303 for reminding me of that Millenium Challenge.



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Dave Aitel <dave at immunityinc.com> wrote:

>  So the thing about being advanced enough is that you don't really have to
> be persistent in any normal sense of the word. Nobody has pointed out how
> the first stage of the NSA shellcode (as leaked by "backgrounded by the
> Constitution and definitely not at all a narcissist" Snowden) just avoids
> executing anything on systems protected by HIPS. Imagine if you were so
> good at your job you could ignore targets you already had execution on if
> you felt even a *little bit* queasy about their defense.
>
> Look, Richard Beitlitch thinks I don't know anything about "Strategy"<http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-limits-of-tool-and-tactics-centric.html>.
> This may be true! But on the other hand, sometimes just outshooting your
> opponent <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02FiZNbZHY> everywhere you
> engage them is a pretty decent strategy. And that comes down to "Tools,
> Tactics and Procedures" on the ground. Speaking of which - INNUENDO is
> going to be 1.0 Beta today because I can't find any more bugs in it. :>
>
> -dave
>
>
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