[Dailydave] Static and Dynamic Analysis

Jared DeMott jdemott at vdalabs.com
Mon Feb 11 19:32:15 UTC 2019


We use and have access to a number of both types of tools when we do dev
training and pentesting.  We find them fairly useful both for dev and for
red teaming.
On the dynamic side, we wrote a recent blog here:
https://www.vdalabs.com/2019/02/01/microsoft-security-risk-detection-writing-a-custom-test-harness-to-fuzz-libraries/
We'd be happy to connect ppl to MS if they're interested in buying time on
their range.

Thanks!
Jared


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dave Aitel <dave.aitel at gmail.com> wrote:

> So one thing I often find weird about our industry is how it gets taken
> over by marketing language and the utility of entire classes of products
> gets clouded over. For example, part of any SDLC is going to be static and
> dynamic analysis. However, if you ask a normal security manager what kinds
> of bugs these sorts of products find or don't find, and what the false
> positive levels are, they find it hard to answer, even assuming they use
> them.
>
> What I'm trying to do with INFILTRATE's Java Hacking
> <http://infiltratecon.com/training/> class is get access to a modern
> static analysis tool and be able to plug the class exercises into it. This
> way, not only do you have a corpus of "Correct" vulnerabilities, but you
> get to see what it looks like through the "Source-to-sink" algorithms, and
> how to tell true positives from false positives, and also examine false
> negatives.
>
> Likewise, judging a static analysis tool is often about figuring out where
> they set their dial. When you talk to the Chris's they will say they have
> VERY LOW false positives, which is never my experience with any tool in
> this area. But you can dial UP the false negatives to get lower false
> positives for any tool like this. BUT DO YOU WANT TO? These are important
> trade off questions that need to be examined in the wild as opposed to
> through marketing.
>
> Anyways, sign up for the class, because it is a great class, and this may
> be the first time anyone has done a corpus test on a static analysis tool
> during class. :)
>
> -dave
>
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Thanks,

Dr. Jared DeMott
Founder, VDA Labs
www.vdalabs.com
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