<div dir="ltr">Infiltrate handles this fantastically. A non drinker can blend into cocktail hour water in hand; without getting dragged into mandatory keg stands and belching contests you might find at other conferences. By day the debugger slides damn near require a lucid and caffeine fueled sobriety so there is actually social pressure against getting hammered the night before. As an attendee, strolling into the day hung over, 2-3 talks late feels like a local taboo; At Defcon even the speaker at the first talk of the day is surprised to see anyone in attendance. Overall Infiltrate marginalizes and contains the industries proclivity to drink to much, while facilitating it judgement free and entertaining way. Expert social engineers are clearly at work.<br><div><br></div><div>(The BJJ open mat is also a really cool idea; Even though I don't do BJJ it would be cool to see that expanded to other healthy/social activities.)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:54 AM David Aitel <<a href="mailto:dave@immunityinc.com">dave@immunityinc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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So today I'm going over the reports released at Kaspersky's SAS
conference and for some reason the images of people drinking on
stage stuck out at me. I think it's because half my facebook feed,
when I bother to log in to see what the schedule at the local BJJ
gym is, is people in <b>our community</b> talking about their
recovery from addiction. <br>
<br>
I know DefCon has this tradition of drinking on stage too, and GCon
did, of course, as have many other conferences I've been to. <br>
<br>
Conferences are partially celebrations. And drinking is part of
celebrating, for a lot of people, but it's always been weird in our
culture because for so long we were all so young (and so
overwhelmingly male). I don't know about you, but it's always seemed
insane to me when people post tweets about how they're drinking to
commemorate Barnaby Jack's death as if that wasn't the very shit
that killed him. <br>
<br>
INFILTRATE has open bars - basically during the whole conference.
But we also have non-alcoholic cocktails and drinks the whole time
and we don't drink on stage because it's not great for new, younger
members of the community to link technical excellence and addiction.
This isn't "Drunken Master 5: iOS return-to-libc". This is hard
stuff now and spending two days a year talking to the top of the
offensive community about their plans for the year, and what didn't
work last year, sometimes requires a mostly-sober headspace.<br>
<br>
Although we don't advertise it heavily, we have a huge uptake this
year in our non-alcohol included INFILTRATE ticket. It's at a small
discount from the main ticket price, but I don't think that's why
people are buying it. <br>
<br>
Anyways, it's something to think about while we piece over what we
know and don't know about SLINGSHOT and SOFACY...<br>
-dave<br>
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