[Dailydave] The Neutron Star

[Adam Crosby]

To suggest its impossible seems to fly in the face of what has happened (see NSA and Boeing/Airbus).
http://www.economist.com/node/1842124

I'm not saying its anything like the Chinese deal, but the NSA is involved in US companies economic health.

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Adam

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Dave Aitel <dave at immunityinc.com> wrote:

> http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2013-06/26/content_16659265.htm
> 
> Normally I don't like to stick my toe in the neutron star's gravity well that is the NSA-Snowden discussion. But it's important to point out that there are developing standards of behavior being negotiated not between China and the US, but between corporations and governments as a whole.
> 
> Chinese media has been going on for a week about how the Snowden PRISM revelations about the US hacking China are in some way equitable to the US complaints about Chinese government sponsored hacking for the purposes of economic espionage. This is pure public relations nonsense. The complaints US industry has about Chinese state sponsored hacking is not that it is occurring, but that the fruits of the hacking are being given directly to Chinese companies which compete with US (or European, or Korean, etc.) companies. 
> 
> It is impossible as a US company to go to the NSA and say "Hey, my competitor in China makes a pretty nice bulldozer, can I have the plans to that? Also it'd be nice to know what their bid is on that contract in Malaysia we both want to win."  
> 
> It's just that simple. Company's hate being forced to give information to their governments, or trojan their networking equipment (in the case of Huawei and ZTE). It's bad for business. Especially when you get caught or it gets leaked (which it ALWAYS does one way or the other).
> 
> But they hate state-sponsored economic espionage more and I hardly think Chinese companies would enjoy a change in Washington's tune that allowed US companies to employ the full power of the NSA against them.
> 
> -dave
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