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<P>Not an over-simplification, but a useful clarification (indeed, the focus should be on the agent with intent within a "system-with-intent").</P>
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<P>Example, which is the better characterisation: </P>
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<P> "Officer shoots felon in bank robbery attempt" or </P>
<P> "Felon in bank robbery attempt shot by gun held by officer."</P>
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<P>Brian Snow<BR><BR></P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Daniel J Gieseman [ITRNS]" <dgiesema@iastate.edu><BR><B>To: </B>dailydave@lists.immunityinc.com<BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:40:27 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[Dailydave] What is a cyberweapon?<BR><BR></P>
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<P>My take on what Dave is saying is that things like reliable exploits, malicious scripts, etc are not cyber weapons per se, not any more than a bullet is a weapon. It is only when the bullet becomes part of a "system-with-intent", does it become "weaponized". </P>
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<P>I think I see the difference, and when you look at things from that level of abstraction, threats and how you mitigate appear differently. Example: countering the institutional actor (e.g. the "system-with-intent" in this case) will yield better degradation and denial response than merely detecting and armoring yourself from any "bullets" being fired. </P>
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<P>However, this begs the question, what do you do when your institutional adversary is not a Swedish Server Farm, but a state actor not easily degraded?</P>
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<P>Perhaps an over-simplification, but I couldn't resist chiming in.</P>
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