<font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">The problem is that the ~context~ rarely follows the (now) precedent that gets established. That's why issues of over-criminalization are even hard to tackle.</font></font><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</font></font></div><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Not to mention any of the previously mentioned difficulties of (effectively) an adversary w/ unlimited resources that can "legally" handicap you up-front and a jury that is predisposed to convict.</font></font></div>
<div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">It's even more unfortunate that such a polarizing character is involved.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Anyhow... Happy Thanksgiving to my US friends. Be well, -Ali</font></div><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
<br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kristian.hermansen@gmail.com" target="_blank">kristian.hermansen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On Nov 21, 2012 9:08 AM, "Dave Aitel" <<a href="mailto:dave@immunityinc.com" target="_blank">dave@immunityinc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It's obvious to anyone with any technical background that the case the FBI brought against him is a travesty, and the fact that they won is even more insane. It's this sort of thing that makes it obvious the DHS doesn't understand the Internet, and shouldn't be given more control over</font></p>
</div><p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I agree generally, but the evidence is pretty clear:</font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">"Auernheimer admitted conducting the breach to tarnish AT&T’s reputation"</font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">This seems preconceived and an attempt to defame ATT. Those two facts alone seem to constitute enough for legal action following the script probes, but I am also not a lawyer. ATT doesn't seem to have a get out of jail free card for security folk testing for weaknesses. All combined, you go to jail when someone snitches on you.</font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I also had words with weev five years ago. He is definitely a troll to anyone that knows him, so the story hits home. He has done much worse than what this breach brought to light, as you point out.</font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I am also still troubled by the outcome of course because the "hack" is really just twiddling some integers (direct object reference), which works on 99% of websites today to "breach" private data. I would bet lots of people on this lost have probably done the same and are not in jail. Then again, we probably didn't chat about it for hours and attempt to defame a corporation. We are mostly white hats here right? Maybe only a slight tint of gray? ;)</font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Happy thanksgiving!</font></p>
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