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<DIV>Perhaps everything basically boils down into that, at one form or 
another.&nbsp; How many new things are really under the sun?</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=john@blackhillsinfosec.com 
href="mailto:john@blackhillsinfosec.com">John Strand</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:31 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dave@immunityinc.com 
href="mailto:dave@immunityinc.com">Dave Aitel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=dailydave@lists.immunityinc.com 
href="mailto:dailydave@lists.immunityinc.com">dailydave@lists.immunityinc.com</A> 
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Dailydave] Defeating what's next</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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does it seem we are moving from blacklists to "new and improved" blacklists? 
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<DIV>It seems like the industry is caught between choosing between things that 
dont work (i.e. blacklists, "better" firewalls) and things which are hard to 
implement (i.e. whitelists, better internal network segmentation, baseline 
monitoring, etc.)&nbsp; </DIV>
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<DIV>I think Paul said, "Every time you hit the easy button, God deploys another 
trojan on your network."</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>--------------------------------<BR><BR>R. Bradley 
Andrews<BR>andrews@rbacomm.com<BR>CISSP, CSSLP, 
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