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</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_5993" class="">Hello all! <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6355" class=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6339" class="">leaving aside hateful thoughts directed at windows, please consider the following situation: </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_5995" class=""> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_5997" class="" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_5999" style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6001" style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6003" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>GIVENS: </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6005" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6007" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6009" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6011" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>I have a client with multiple locations.
The client runs windows active directory. Each location has an ADS
controller. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6013" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6015" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6017" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6019" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Client sold one part of its biz, SUB A. SUB
A's IT components are largely contained in its location. SUB A, at its
location, has a combination file server/AD server (SUBA-FS1). </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6021" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6023" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6025" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6027" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>the new owner of SUB A has elected to keep this
file server. </div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6029" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6031" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6033" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6035" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>SUBA-FS1 is running win2k8r2</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6037" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6039" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6041" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6043" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>SUBA-FS1 is a vm running on a vmware 5.0 server
(SUBA-ESX1). </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6045" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6047" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6049" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6051" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>There are no vmware or vss snapshots. </div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6053" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6055" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6057" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6059" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>The new owner won’t be getting a backup of SUBA-FS1. </div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6061" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6063" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6065" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6067" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>SUBA-ESX1 has been used as a staging area for DR
testing (restoring other VMS).</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6069" class="" style="margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6071" style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6073" style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6075" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>It
has one data store. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6077" class="" style="margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6079" style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6081" style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6083" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>These
vms have been removed. </div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6085" class="" style="margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6087" style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6089" style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6091" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>I
have added virtual disks to SUBA-FS1 that are the same size as the total free
space and run sysinternals sdelete against the disks, which effectively overwrote all the
free space in vmfs. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6093" class="" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6095" style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6097" style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6099" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>QUESTION: </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6101" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6103" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6105" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6107" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>can I safely give this server to the new owner? </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6109" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6111" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6113" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6115" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>If so how? </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6117" class="" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6119" style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6121" style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6123" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>MY THOUGHTS</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6125" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6127" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6129" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6131" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>When I demote the server from domain controller
to member server, windows removes active directory info from the machine.
</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6133" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6135" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6137" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6139" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>I think that this process wipes the data
(deletes it and zeroes out the files and folder so that undelete is not
possible) from the disk. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6141" class="" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6143" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6145" style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6147" style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>I think that even if the process does not wipe
the data, if the folder that contains the active directory data is gone and I
run “sdelete –p 5 –c c:” (from sysinternals), then the data will be gone. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6149" class=""> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6151" class="">If there is no secure way to do this, what is the best I can do?</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6153" class=""> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6165" class="">I think I am on the right track but I have been doing
this long enough to realize that I could be missing something. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6356" class=""><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="">i am happy to answer follow up questions. <br></div><div class=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6357" class="">Thanks in advance. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6358" class=""><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1453348559541_6359" class=""><br> </div><div dir="ltr">
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