<div dir="ltr">Also prompted by (and arguably relevant to) the same point: <a href="https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/738334152513048576">https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/738334152513048576</a><div><br></div><div>    Julio Auto</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM dave aitel &lt;<a href="mailto:dave@immunityinc.com">dave@immunityinc.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  

    
  
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    <p>From Spender&#39;s recent <a href="https://grsecurity.net/SSTIC2016.pdf" target="_blank">Keynote</a>:<br>
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    Conferences poor method of knowledge transfer <br>
    <p>     Good method of making audience feel “knowledge” transfer <br>
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    <p>    Accept that it’s basically show-and-tell, that understanding
      of a topic requires
      more than an hour, sometimes with weeks/months/years of background
      knowledge</p>
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    <p>As someone who helps run <a href="http://infiltratecon.com/" target="_blank">INFILTRATE</a>
      I want to point out that while I totally agree that conferences
      can be hard to use as knowledge transfer mechanisms, that they are
      getting better. In particular I want to point people towards this
      very long piece on how everything connects together, especially
      those of you who attended INFILTRATE: <a href="http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html" target="_blank">http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html</a></p>
    <p>This is also true of training: I&#39;d love to find a way to offer a
      continued education series based on the INFILTRATE classes. And I
      have another post coming out to connect more dots from INFILTRATE
      2016 shortly. But Spender is right: Conferences, a mainstay of our
      community, can be too much about show and tell, and not enough
      about scientific progress. (That said, I think INFILTRATE is the
      best among them in that regards, of course. :))</p>
    <p>And we ARE offering the INFILTRATE training again <a href="https://twitter.com/Immunityinc/status/738404651712798721" target="_blank">both
        in NYC and (strangely enough!) Columbia MD</a>.<br>
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    <p>-dave</p>
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