[Dailydave] Knowledge Transfer

Sean Wilson sean at idiom.ca
Fri Jun 3 14:48:56 EDT 2016

I think this is why we are starting to see more workshops at conferences
which is a better format for people to sit down and dig into a topic for a
couple hours. Although this doesn't work for all types of talks or research
it is a step in the right direction.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's something we will see in the bigger cons
as they don't have the same general "marketing" appeal. But they do
generally deal with the fun and practical knowledge...how does 'X' actually
work. Which for a lot of us is why we're here..forever curious.

PS - Infiltrate should totally have workshops.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Julio Auto <julio.auto at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also prompted by (and arguably relevant to) the same point:
> https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/738334152513048576
>     Julio Auto
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM dave aitel <dave at immunityinc.com> wrote:
>> From Spender's recent Keynote <https://grsecurity.net/SSTIC2016.pdf>:
>> """
>> Conferences poor method of knowledge transfer
>>     Good method of making audience feel “knowledge” transfer
>>     Accept that it’s basically show-and-tell, that understanding of a
>> topic requires more than an hour, sometimes with weeks/months/years of
>> background knowledge
>> """
>> As someone who helps run INFILTRATE <http://infiltratecon.com/> I want
>> to point out that while I totally agree that conferences can be hard to use
>> as knowledge transfer mechanisms, that they are getting better. In
>> particular I want to point people towards this very long piece on how
>> everything connects together, especially those of you who attended
>> <http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html>
>> http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html
>> This is also true of training: I'd love to find a way to offer a
>> continued education series based on the INFILTRATE classes. And I have
>> another post coming out to connect more dots from INFILTRATE 2016 shortly.
>> But Spender is right: Conferences, a mainstay of our community, can be too
>> much about show and tell, and not enough about scientific progress. (That
>> said, I think INFILTRATE is the best among them in that regards, of course.
>> :))
>> And we ARE offering the INFILTRATE training again both in NYC and
>> (strangely enough!) Columbia MD
>> <https://twitter.com/Immunityinc/status/738404651712798721>.
>> -dave
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